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Just wondering how you reconcile the use of the word “leader”
with what Jesus said in Mt 23:10.
The word “leader”seems like a “high place.” Yes?
Jesus always took and recommended the “low place.” Yes?
Jesus humbled Himself, made himself of no reputation
and took on the form of a servant.
Php 2:7
Jesus in Mat 23:10 told His disciples “NOT”
to call themselves master/“leaders”
for you have one master/"leader” the Christ.
King James Version -
Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
The Interlinear Bible -
Nor be called leaders, for one is your leader the Christ.
Phillips Modern English -
you must not let people call you leaders,
you have only one leader, Christ.
Today's English Version -
nor should you be called leader.
your one and only leader is the Messiah.
The Amplified-
you must not be called masters ( leaders )
for you have one master ( leader ) the Christ.
Jesus told His disciples not to be called "leaders" and none did.
Ro 1:1 Paul, a servant of Jesus Christ...
Php 1:1 Paul and Timotheus, the servants of Jesus Christ...
Col 4:12 Epaphras, who is one of you, a servant of Christ...
Tit 1:1 Paul, a servant of God...
Jas 1:1 James, a servant of God...
2Pe 1:1 Simon Peter, a servant...
His disciples "all" called themselves "servants,"
none called themselves "leaders." None? None.
None called themselves "servant-leader." None.
If someone calls them self a "leader"
or thinks they are a "leader;"
Are they a "disciple of Christ?"
Wondering some more.
Most on the list of people at this “leadership?” event
are not only considered “ leaders?”
but also have the “Title” “Pastor.”
Where in the Bible does it say “pastor = leader?”
Jesus warned us about the "traditions of men"
that nullify the word of God. Yes?
Have you done your own study, research, on pastors?
I mean in the Bible?
What does the Bible say about pastors?
Makes an interesting study.
Here’s some questions to ask as you check out pastors.
In the Bible, How many people... have the title pastor?
In the Bible, How many people are... referred to as pastor?
In the Bible, How many people are... ordained as a pastor?
In the Bible, How many congregations are... led by a pastor?
Be blessed in your search for truth... Jesus
And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice;
and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.
John 10:16
One Fold - One Shepherd - One Voice.
If Not Now, When?
Be blessed and be a blessing.
Posted by: A. Amos Love | September 08, 2009 at 11:33 AM
Nice- I love it when slightly nutty people with an axe to grind drop by.
Stick these in your blender and see what you come up with:
"Dear brothers and sisters, honor those who are your leaders in the Lord’s work. They work hard among you and give you spiritual guidance. " 1 Thess 5 12
"Remember your leaders who taught you the word of God. Think of all the good that has come from their lives, and follow the example of their faith." Heb 13:7
"Obey your spiritual leaders, and do what they say. Their work is to watch over your souls, and they are accountable to God. Give them reason to do this with joy and not with sorrow. That would certainly not be for your benefit." Heb 13:17
"Here are some of the parts God has appointed for the church:
first are apostles,
second are prophets,
third are teachers,
then those who do miracles,
those who have the gift of healing,
those who can help others,
those who have the gift of leadership..." 1 Cor 12:28
Have you done your own research on leaders/leadership in the church? I mean, in the BIBLE? I mean- if not now, then when?
Go ahead and put down the Frank Viola book, pick up Scripture and read it. Then you might actually be able to teach the 5 people in your house church something! Oh- but wait- that would be too "authoritarian" wouldn't it? Sorry, man... I guess they'll just get to keep thinking that they have no leader because you tell them they don't.
Posted by: bob | September 09, 2009 at 05:04 AM