Can anyone seriously defend this man?
How does he do it? All we have to do is head back in time a bit to see...
This is Marjoe Gortner. I'll let him tell you...
I'm a husband, father, pastor and church planter
I am so embarrased of Benny... that is so sad. The thing that gets me the most is that they are decieving their own brothers and sisters. Low.
Posted by: Drew Lucas | November 19, 2006 at 08:14 AM
I will link tis blog. i Benny Hinn is on one end of a scale, I´m pretty much on the other extreme.
Large scale - Small scale
Prosperity preaching - Discipleship preaching
Christian focused - non christian focused
One Man - Body of believers
A prophet/healer - Priesthood of all believers
Positional - Relational
My ministry . Missio Dei
Posted by: Pasor Astor | November 19, 2006 at 09:48 AM
Allow me to quote one of my favourite prophetic voices, Charlie Brown:
AAAAUUUUGGGHHHHH!!!
It's stuff like this that makes so many post-charismatics.
Posted by: robbymac | November 19, 2006 at 09:15 PM
I'm a recovering Pentecostal. Believe me, Benny is just the latest in charismania. It's a simple fact: if you list the top heresies ravanging the church (say, Word of Faith, prosperity gospel, oneness/anti-trinitarian apostolicism, latter rain or kingdom-now, and so forth) virtually all of them find their roots and support in Pentecostalism. That would tell a more observant person a little something. But from my time in check-yer-brain-at-the-door Pentecostalism, discernment and observation is not their strength. Anything -- and I mean almost anything -- is immediately accepted without question if it's claimed to be "in the spirit" or "holy spirit-led." See all those wheel chairs on the stage -- RENTED wheelchairs! -- no one bothers to ask "Where are the dozens of former para/quadrapelegics that used those chairs?" Benny and his ilk have already been debunked and exposed for anyone willing to see it. Given the open fraud, one can only assume the today's Pentecostals knowingly engage in self-deceoption for the sake of spiritualized experience. I've seen it.
Posted by: Phil | November 19, 2006 at 10:57 PM
Hi Bob
I am with you in not agreeing with the philosophy/theology of Benny Hinn, but I am disturbed that this may turn into a lynch mob approach.
The Marjoe story is not relevant - that's Marjoe. What is relevant is that the 'Expose' exposed nothing criminal or sexually immoral. Plenty of people, who we think decent citizens, stay in presidential suites. The forensic accountant would not even commit to the lay-overs being wrong.
In the past Bishops have lived in palaces and Popes have been rulers on earth. This is nothing new.
Don't misunderstand me. I have watched Benny Hinn on the God Channel and wonder what on earth is going on and how people can believe in what he is saying, but they do. And the essence of tolerance and diversity is that we try and learn from this.
Jesus did samll stuff and he did the crowd thing (feeding of the 5,000, for example, very Benny Hinn). All of which is ultimately irrelevant. I have no problem disagreing with the guy. I do have a problem 'exposing' someone for the crime of not agreeing with me.
There may eventually be evidence of illegality and/or sexual immorality, until then I think we should confine ourselves to criticizing his theology.
Posted by: Ross Royden | November 20, 2006 at 03:09 AM
Ross- absolutely not
-no we don't need to confine ourselves to criticising his theology. His lavish lifestye on tax deductable ministy money is wrong in and of itself.
And no- no lynch mob. just more and more people aware of the fact that he's a total sham who is living high on money people think is actually going to something good, but in fact feeds only greed in the Hinn family.
Posted by: bob | November 20, 2006 at 04:07 AM
Still amazing....Unfortunately, still not shocking:(
Posted by: Blake | November 20, 2006 at 06:37 AM
dig the tie...where do I send my 10 dollars that I have stashed in the cookie jar?
Posted by: Toby | November 20, 2006 at 05:47 PM
Thanks, Bob.
I posted over at Vanguard Church about this, linking to your post. Excellent stuff.
Posted by: Bob Robinson | November 21, 2006 at 06:14 AM
I dont know whether to feel sad or angry after I watched the Hinn related videos. Esp. when many in Asia might still adore him and some emulate his style in ministry, theology and who knows slowly his lifestyle?
Posted by: Sivin | November 22, 2006 at 04:30 PM
These people are swindlers, however they justify it.
But the flocks that they fleece - who love the message - are actually looking for a pay out from God. They see God as an ATM machine. They themselves need a look in the mirror for why they are drawn to these crooks. They like what they hear because it justifies their own hidden greed.
Even the "seed" metaphor has been warped. They see the seed as CASH! The seed - if you read the bible and have a basic ability to comprehend it - the seed is the gospel - the good news - that God loves you. It's not about money AT ALL! Does God need money? God is spirit and what he values are spiritual things - like LOVE.
But the followers want cars and plasma screens before they want love - so they get the preachers they deserve.
Some will sign on soon to defend these crooks - just watch! They are deaf and blind - and it is really very sad. They just want money - like the preachers they listen to.
Posted by: JJH | November 29, 2006 at 07:54 AM
Watch the entire CBC documentary online DO YOU BELIEVE IN MIRACLES? (runs appox 41:30) THAT SHOWS BENNY HINN TO BE A LIAR AND A MAN WITH NO INTEGRITY CONCERING HIS FINANCES AT http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/main_miracles.html
Benny Hinn insists that every penny is spent on God's work. But the fifth estate obtained confidential financial records from inside the Hinn ministry. These documents were provided by individuals who say they want the public to know how Benny Hinn spends the money entrusted to him. (The documentary shows that Benny Hinn is a liar who has no integrity just like Steve Long of TACF See http://torontoblessing.tripodcom/ )
Posted by: Don Justice | January 31, 2007 at 10:48 AM