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I think with all the back-and-forth of PosterGate (don't miss What Would Spurgeon Do?) it's probably important to extract this from the comments/great dialogue below... From Frank Turk: "I apologize to those who took offense to the comment at teamPyro regarding the ECM posters which Bob posted here. It was intended in good humor, but was it wasn't received that way, and I take responsibility for that." Greatly appreciated...
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Posted by: Jason | August 15, 2007 at 10:35 AM
Those were great, Bob! As a recovering Baptist, I liked the Calvinism one best.
Posted by: Rachel | August 15, 2007 at 11:39 AM
Dude, that's spot-on -- that's exactly what I get all the time. As I said before -- I think you can dish it out. The question is if you can take it.
Posted by: Frank Turk (centuri0n) | August 15, 2007 at 03:10 PM
My particular favorite is "evangelism", although I think "love" is a good one, and "theology" needs to be hung over the doorpost of many, many TeamPyro-friendly blogs.
Posted by: Frank Turk (centuri0n) | August 15, 2007 at 03:12 PM
Calvanism strikes a chord with me - but the love poster is the one I shared on my blog - hope that is alright - provided link to the source too! Thanks for the good laughs!
Posted by: Jeremy | August 15, 2007 at 04:01 PM
See? Good laughs.
Let's look at this:
cartoon
Does that really look like what happened?
Is it funny?
You decide.
Posted by: Frank Turk (centuri0n) | August 15, 2007 at 05:51 PM
Evangelism is my favorite. Reminds me of some (fundamentalist) Baptist brothers I met in London who were aghast at my pub touring... and even more aghast when I said, "Well that's where the sinners are dude." That was funny.
What wasn't funny is the stories my pastor in CA told me about his mission trips to Russia, where the (fundamentalist) Baptist missionaries pretty much required full glorification before they'd let you in the door of the church. We're talking 16 year old prostitutes standing out in the cold because they weren't dressed appropriately and smelled like cigarettes. Not cool.
Posted by: Garet | August 15, 2007 at 05:51 PM
This thread, btw, brings up a god question I asked which you haven't answered yet, mon Bob: what's the difference between "insult" and "satire"? Is there one?
Posted by: Frank Turk (centuri0n) | August 15, 2007 at 05:53 PM
Frank: IMO Not funny because it was kinda lame.
Posted by: Garet | August 15, 2007 at 05:54 PM
Wow, Frank... You are now actually making MY points for me! Beautiful.
Of course it's not funny, because it's NOT TRUE. Continued on other thread...
Posted by: Bob | August 15, 2007 at 05:59 PM
It's not funny cause it's a lame cartoon. I think it is plenty true, just poorly delivered. It's not really BITING (inadvertent pun)because Bill is more Huckleberry Hound then pit bull. But it is accurate to say that Bill acted the part of "attack dog" in that campaign.
Posted by: Garet | August 15, 2007 at 06:32 PM
You know what would make these more truthful commentaries, would be if you could link them to actual examples on which they are based, as Phil did.
*crickets chirping*
Posted by: Garet | August 15, 2007 at 06:42 PM
Why?
Are you implying that they aren't true?
Posted by: Bob | August 15, 2007 at 06:50 PM
And seriously... would that matter?
I mean, they're funny... right?
Posted by: Bob | August 15, 2007 at 06:52 PM
Your posters are funny Bob. And yes, because they contain truisms(some more than others). My point is that you complained Team Pyro's posters weren't funny because they weren't true, even though Phil linked to the *real examples* on which they were based. Sure your posters are based on characterizations that aren't necessarily true of Team Pyro, but they are representative of a vast swath of the fundamentalist and reformed blogosphere. The Calvinism one is ridiculously simplistic, but then, so is a lot of peoples Calvinism, so it's funny.
would that matter? Not to me, but it seems to matter to you.
Posted by: garet | August 16, 2007 at 05:38 AM
"My point is that you complained Team Pyro's posters weren't funny because they weren't true, even though Phil linked to the *real examples* on which they were based. Sure your posters are based on characterizations that aren't necessarily true of Team Pyro, but they are representative of a vast swath of the fundamentalist and reformed blogosphere."
Ha... even many of the Team Pyro fans couldn't get some of the tenuous connections Phil was making. Some of those were beyond weak. But I'm glad you agree mine are spot on. Tell you what- you provide the examples and I'll link to them :)
Posted by: Bob | August 16, 2007 at 06:02 AM
Sorry, not doing your work for you. :-) And your "beyond weak" statement is a matter of opinion; I happened think that Phil's posters were SPOT ON. Much of the whining/complaining/dialog has only substantiated that.
you agree mine are spot on That would be putting words in my mouth. There is a lot more nuance (I use that word only in my pretentious John F. Kerry impersonation) to my comment then that.
Posted by: garet | August 16, 2007 at 06:21 AM
um, what's the difference between "insult" and "satire"?
Anyone?
Posted by: Frank Turk (centuri0n) | August 16, 2007 at 07:50 AM
--um, what's the difference between "insult" and "satire"?--
If it's against you, it's an insult, thus not funny. If it's against the other guy, it's satire, thus hilarious.
Btw, pyro's are wittier, not to mention more original.
Posted by: jazzact13 | August 17, 2007 at 05:10 AM
Hey thanks Jazzy- that really advanced the conversation!
(sarcasm)
Personally, I think you are kind of dumb
(insult)
But don't take it personally... it's just me making a point via a joke at your expense!
I'm figuring it out Frank. :) Boy... you have got to be the least patient internet curmudgeon I have ever met!
Posted by: Bob | August 17, 2007 at 07:30 AM
excellent posters. i was motivated to come up with a few of my own (http://spiritofthebeer.blogspot.com/). most of them are kind of lame, but i try :-) thanks for sharing those.
Posted by: ryan | August 22, 2007 at 04:39 PM
--Hey thanks Jazzy- that really advanced the conversation!
(sarcasm)--
We were conversing? Funny, that was my first post here. I think it takes more then one entry to a conversation make.
--Personally, I think you are kind of dumb
(insult)--
Only kind of? Come on, tell us how you really feel.
--But don't take it personally... it's just me making a point via a joke at your expense!--
So, you get it!! That's satire, at least from your pov.
Posted by: jazzact13 | August 27, 2007 at 01:12 PM